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charmides-第15章

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reasonably supposed to call him wise who does his own work。







O Critias; I said; no sooner had you opened your mouth; than I pretty well



knew that you would call that which is proper to a man; and that which is



his own; good; and that the makings (Greek) of the good you would call



doings (Greek); for I am no stranger to the endless distinctions which



Prodicus draws about names。  Now I have no objection to your giving names



any signification which you please; if you will only tell me what you mean



by them。  Please then to begin again; and be a little plainer。  Do you mean



that this doing or making; or whatever is the word which you would use; of



good actions; is temperance?







I do; he said。







Then not he who does evil; but he who does good; is temperate?







Yes; he said; and you; friend; would agree。







No matter whether I should or not; just now; not what I think; but what you



are saying; is the point at issue。







Well; he answered; I mean to say; that he who does evil; and not good; is



not temperate; and that he is temperate who does good; and not evil:  for



temperance I define in plain words to be the doing of good actions。







And you may be very likely right in what you are saying; but I am curious



to know whether you imagine that temperate men are ignorant of their own



temperance?







I do not think so; he said。







And yet were you not saying; just now; that craftsmen might be temperate in



doing another's work; as well as in doing their own?







I was; he replied; but what is your drift?







I have no particular drift; but I wish that you would tell me whether a



physician who cures a patient may do good to himself and good to another



also?







I think that he may。







And he who does so does his duty?







Yes。







And does not he who does his duty act temperately or wisely?







Yes; he acts wisely。







But must the physician necessarily know when his treatment is likely to



prove beneficial; and when not? or must the craftsman necessarily know when



he is likely to be benefited; and when not to be benefited; by the work



which he is doing?







I suppose not。







Then; I said; he may sometimes do good or harm; and not know what he is



himself doing; and yet; in doing good; as you say; he has done temperately



or wisely。  Was not that your statement?







Yes。







Then; as would seem; in doing good; he may act wisely or temperately; and



be wise or temperate; but not know his own wisdom or temperance?







But that; Socrates; he said; is impossible; and therefore if this is; as



you imply; the necessary consequence of any of my previous admissions; I



will withdraw them; rather than admit that a man can be temperate or wise



who does not know himself; and I am not ashamed to confess that I was in



error。  For self…knowledge would certainly be maintained by me to be the



very essence of knowledge; and in this I agree with him who dedicated the



inscription; 'Know thyself!' at Delphi。  That word; if I am not mistaken;



is put there as a sort of salutation which the god addresses to those who



enter the temple; as much as to say that the ordinary salutation of 'Hail!'



is not right; and that the exhortation 'Be temperate!' would be a far



better way of saluting one another。  The notion of him who dedicated the



inscription was; as I believe; that the god speaks to those who enter his



temple; not as men speak; but; when a worshipper enters; the first word



which he hears is 'Be temperate!'  This; however; like a prophet he



expresses in a sort of riddle; for 'Know thyself!' and 'Be temperate!' are



the same; as I maintain; and as the letters imply (Greek); and yet they may



be easily misunderstood; and succeeding sages who added 'Never too much;'



or; 'Give a pledge; and evil is nigh at hand;' would appear to have so



misunderstood them; for they imagined that 'Know thyself!' was a piece of



advice which the god gave; and not his salutation of the worshippers at



their first coming in; and they dedicated their own inscription under the



idea that they too would give equally useful pieces of advice。  Shall I



tell you; Socrates; why I say all this?  My object is to leave the previous



discussion (in which I know not whether you or I are more right; but; at



any rate; no clear result was attained); and to raise a new one in which I



will attempt to prove; if you deny; that temperance is self…knowledge。







Yes; I said; Critias; but you come to me as though I professed to know



about the questions which I ask; and as though I could; if I only would;



agree with you。  Whereas the fact is that I enquire with you into the truth



of that which is advanced from time to time; just because I do not know;



and when I have enquired; I will say whether I agree with you or not。 



Please then to allow me time to reflect。







Reflect; he said。







I am reflecting; I replied; and discover that temperance; or wisdom; if



implying a knowledge of anything; must be a science; and a science of



something。







Yes; he said; the science of itself。







Is not medicine; I said; the science of health?







True。







And suppose; I said; that I were asked by you what is the use or effect of



medicine; which is this science of health; I should answer that medicine is



of very great use in producing health; which; as you will admit; is an



excellent effect。







Granted。







And if you were to ask me; what is the result or effect of architecture;



which is the science of building; I should say houses; and so of other



arts; which all have their different results。  Now I want you; Critias; to



answer a similar question about temperance; or wisdom; which; according to



you; is the science of itself。  Admitting this view; I ask of you; what



good work; worthy of the name wise; does temperance or wisdom; which is the



science of itself; effect?  Answer me。







That is not the true way of pursuing the enquiry; Socrates; he said; for



wisdom is not like the other sciences; any more than they are like one



another:  but you proceed as if they were alike。  For tell me; he said;



what result is there of computation or geometry; in the same sense as a



house is the result of building; or a garment of weaving; or any other work



of any other art?  Can you show me any such result of them?  You cannot。







That is true; I said; but still each of these sciences has a subject which



is different from the science。  I can show you that the art of computation



has to do with odd and
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